Sir Roger Penrose & Dr. Stuart Hameroff: CONSCIOUSNESS AND THE PHYSICS OF THE BRAIN

  • Published on: 12 May 2020
  • January 10, 2020
    Roth Auditorium - Sanford Consortium for Regenerative Medicine
    La Jolla, CA

    An intimate lecture with renowned mathematical physicist Sir Roger Penrose and anesthesiologist Dr. Stuart Hameroff, followed by a conversation with The Science Network co-founder Roger Bingham. Co-organized by The Penrose Institute and the UC San Diego Institute for Neural Computation, with the support of Intheon, Neocortex Ventures, and the Data Science Alliance.

    Sir Roger Penrose and Dr. Stuart Hameroff discuss one of the leading theories of consciousness recently selected by the Templeton Foundation for study.
    Is the brain a sophisticated computer or an intuitive thinking device? Following on from their conference in Tucson which pitted Integrated Information Theory (IIT) against Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Orch-OR), Sir Roger Penrose OM and Stuart Hameroff discuss the current state of theories that might explain human consciousness.

    Sir Roger Penrose describe examples of ‘non-computability’ in human consciousness, thoughts and actions such as the way we evaluate particular chess positions which cast doubt on ‘Turing’ computation as a complete explanation of brain function. As a source of non-computability, Roger discuss his ‘objective reduction’ (‘OR’) self-collapse of the quantum wavefunction which is a potential resolution for the ‘measurement problem’ in quantum mechanics, and a mechanism for non-computable physics.

    Dr. Stuart Hameroff reviews neuronal and biophysical aspects of Orch OR, in which ‘orchestrated’ quantum vibrations occur among entangled brain microtubules and evolve toward Orch OR threshold and consciousness. The nature, feasibility, decoherence times and evidence for quantum vibrations in microtubules, their role and correlation with consciousness, effects upon them of anesthetic gases and psychedelic drug molecules will be discussed, along with Orch OR criticisms and predictions of microtubule quantum vibrations as therapeutic targets for mental and cognitive disorders.

    Biography: Sir Roger Penrose OM FRS, Emeritus Professor at the Mathematical Institute of the University of Oxford, Emeritus Fellow at Wadham College, and winner of the Wolf Prize in Physics, has made profound contributions across a broad range of scientific disciplines. His work encompasses geometry, black hole singularities, the unification of quantum mechanics and gravity, the structure of space-time, and the origin of our Universe. His geometric creations inspired the works of Escher, and the Penrose steps have been featured in several movies. His tilings adorn many public buildings, including the Oxford Mathematics Institute, and will soon decorate the San Francisco Transbay Terminal. The five-fold symmetry, initially thought impossible or a mathematical curiosity, has now been found in nature. In 1989 Penrose wrote The Emperor’s New Mind which challenged the premise that consciousness is computation and proposes we need new physics to understand it.

    Biography: Stuart Hameroff MD is an anesthesiologist at the University of Arizona in Tucson. In the mid 1990s Hameroff teamed with famed British physicist Sir Roger Penrose to develop a quantum theory of consciousness (‘orchestrated objective reduction’, ‘Orch OR’) based on microtubule quantum computing. Highly controversial and harshly criticized, Orch OR is now supported by evidence, e.g. that anesthetics act in quantum channels in microtubules, and that microtubules have multi-scalar resonances, e.g. in megahertz. He and anesthesiology colleagues performed and published the first clinical trial of transcranial ultrasound (‘TUS’) on mental states in human volunteers, showing mood enhancement from brief, low intensity TUS. Beginning in 1994 Hameroff was the lead in starting an interdisciplinary, international conference series ‘Toward a Science of Consciousness’ held in even-numbered years in Tucson, and odd-numbered years elsewhere around the world. Hameroff has written or edited 5 books, over a hundred scientific articles and book chapters, lectured around the world, and appeared in the film ‘WhattheBleep?’ and numerous TV shows about consciousness on BBC, PBS, Discovery, OWN and History Channel.

    Biography: Roger Bingham is the Cofounder and Director of The Science Network (http://thesciencenetwork.org/) and a member of the Computational Neurobiology Laboratory at the Salk Institute and the Institute for Neural Computation, UC San Diego. He is the co-author of The Origin of Minds: Evolution, Uniqueness, and the New Science of the Self, and the creator and host of Emmy award-winning PBS science programs on evolutionary psychology and cognitive neuroscience, including the critically acclaimed series The Human Quest. He is the Founding Director of the Collaboratory, a Center within INC, which is developing a Science In Society program of public and student engagement to explore and bridge the chasm between the creators and consumers of science and technology.
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COMMENTS: 40

  • Steven Moreland
    Steven Moreland   1 days ago

    Well someone's been pehing attention..#(<*>)#healthegap #cheddabass #2smallfish5loaves? Eph.6:12

  • Frank DiMeglio
    Frank DiMeglio   1 weeks ago

    WHY EINSTEIN'S EQUATIONS PREDICT THAT SPACE IS EXPANDING OR CONTRACTING IN AND WITH TIME, AS E=MC2 IS clearly F=MA ON BALANCE:Ultimately and truly, TIME is NECESSARILY possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity; AS E=MC2 is CLEARLY F=ma IN BALANCE. INSTANTANEITY is FUNDAMENTAL to the FULL and proper understanding of physics/physical experience, AS E=MC2 is clearly F=ma ON BALANCE. This NECESSARILY represents, INVOLVES, AND describes what is possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy. Time DILATION ULTIMATELY proves ON BALANCE that electromagnetism/ENERGY IS GRAVITY, AS E=mc2 is clearly F=ma ON BALANCE. ACCORDINGLY, the known mathematical unification of Einstein's equations AND Maxwell's equations (given the addition of A FOURTH SPATIAL DIMENSION) is proven and explained. BALANCE AND completeness go hand in hand. A PHOTON may be placed at the center of what is THE SUN (as A POINT, of course), AS the reduction of SPACE is offset by (or BALANCED with) the speed of light (c); AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity; AS E=MC2 is CLEARLY F=ma ON BALANCE. The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. NOW, carefully consider what is THE EARTH/ground ON BALANCE !!! Great. Very importantly, outer "space" involves full inertia; AND it is fully invisible AND black. (Notice the term c4 from Einstein's equations.) It is all CLEARLY proven. Gravity IS ELECTROMAGNETISM/ENERGY. This is the ultimate mathematical unification of physics/physical experience. It ALL CLEARLY makes perfect sense. I have truly unified physics/physical experience. Consider THE MAN who IS standing on what is THE EARTH/ground. Touch AND feeling BLEND, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/ENERGY IS GRAVITY; AS E=MC2 is CLEARLY F=ma. THOUGHTS ARE INVISIBLE. (Notice that THE DOME of a person's eye is ALSO VISIBLE.) OVERLAY what is THE EYE in BALANCED RELATION to/WITH what is THE EARTH. The INTEGRATED EXTENSIVENESS of THOUGHT (AND DESCRIPTION) is improved in the truly superior mind. Indeed, the ability of thought to describe OR reconfigure sensory experience is ULTIMATELY dependent upon the extent to which THOUGHT IS SIMILAR TO sensory experience. Time DILATION ULTIMATELY proves ON BALANCE that electromagnetism/ENERGY IS GRAVITY, AS E=mc2 is DIRECTLY and fundamentally derived from F=ma. It is ALL CLEARLY proven. In fact, I have also clarified, clearly identified, and corrected the limited notion of curved "SPACE" !!! MY BALANCED UNIFICATION OF PHYSICS SURPASSES ALL OTHERS. E=mc2 IS F=ma. A galaxy is basically FLAT. Think !!! GREAT. Notice the black space of what is THE EYE as well. ON BALANCE, it ALL CLEARLY makes perfect sense. (Stellar clustering ALSO proves ON BALANCE that ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity, AS E=MC2 is F=ma ON BALANCE.) ELECTROMAGNETISM/ENERGY IS GRAVITY. The Sun AND the Earth are F=ma AND E=mc2, AS E=mc2 IS F=ma. GREAT !!! LOOK at what is the BLUE SKY. The EARTH is ALSO blue. NOW, the stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. Gravity AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy are linked AND BALANCED opposites, AS E=MC2 is clearly F=ma ON BALANCE; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity ON BALANCE !!!! Energy has/involves GRAVITY, AND ENERGY has/involves inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE. Beautiful !!! BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE is fundamental. Gravity/acceleration involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/ENERGY IS GRAVITY. This CLEARY explains F=ma AND E=mc2 ON BALANCE !!! GREAT !!! ACCORDINGLY, the rotation of WHAT IS THE MOON MATCHES it's revolution. It is fully, CLEARLY, and consistently proven ON BALANCE !!! ELECTROMAGNETISM/ENERGY IS GRAVITY. Gravity IS ELECTROMAGNETISM/ENERGY. "Mass"/ENERGY involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE consistent with/as what is BALANCED electromagnetic/gravitational force/ENERGY, AS E=MC2 is clearly F=ma (ON BALANCE); AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. GRAVITATIONAL force/ENERGY IS proportional to (or BALANCED with/as) inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE, AS E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Great. So, carefully consider what is the speed of light (c). Gravity AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy are linked AND BALANCED opposites, AS E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Objects (and WHAT IS the falling MAN) fall at the SAME RATE (neglecting air resistance, of course), AS E=MC2 is F=ma; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is clearly gravity ON BALANCE. The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. I have also CLEARLY explained ON BALANCE why the planets will move away very, very, very slightly in relation to what is THE SUN. SO, BALANCE AND completeness go hand in hand; AS it ALL CLEARLY makes perfect sense !!! E=MC2 is F=ma ON BALANCE. Finally, carefully consider what is the speed of light (c) !!! NOW, ON BALANCE, carefully consider what is THE EARTH/ground as well !!! Great !!! E=MC2 is CLEARLY proven to be F=ma ON BALANCE, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity.By Frank DiMeglio

  • Robin Good
    Robin Good   1 weeks ago

    Amazing, he even said about psychedelics enhancing counsciousness and that it can be detected with quantum experiments. Amazing,

  • Euclid ofAlexandria
    Euclid ofAlexandria   3 weeks ago

    the algorithm should encapsulate data unpacktification if guessing the next step is the way the measurer operates.

  • Euclid ofAlexandria
    Euclid ofAlexandria   3 weeks ago

    sympathetic resonance representing data unpacktification, for higher quantum dynamic manifesting over a larger area.

  • Peter Barker
    Peter Barker   1 months ago

    ...are you certain.......parts...'ve.....thy brain...

  • Peter Barker
    Peter Barker   1 months ago

    ...you can be on the same plane...... doesn't mean you're on the same ...... .......plain.....

  • Benjamin Knudson
    Benjamin Knudson   1 months ago

    I think we need to start modeling string cheese theory; The fundamental particles are resultant of the de-stringing of higher dimension string cheese.

  • Benjamin Knudson
    Benjamin Knudson   1 months ago

    15:20 write that theres a gap in the walls next time i solve a maze, or maybe that there are arches and entryways that you can't see from a top down view

  • Benjamin Knudson
    Benjamin Knudson   1 months ago

    at the end of the game the winning result for white would be a draw, im almost certain theres a forced stalemate or draw by repetition

  • Benjamin Knudson
    Benjamin Knudson   1 months ago

    maybe white wins the chess game by moving his king up the diagonal behind the isolated pawns to make black pawns become passed pawns, I know thats not the point but still

  • joy4u2
    joy4u2   1 months ago

    Hindus have explained it and more few centuries back!!!

  • John B
    John B   1 months ago

    'Consciousness' is a FUNCTION involving TWO Components; 1/. An Analytical process, such as the brain or other and 2/. "AWARENESS" which is NOT a human Component, but is the Non-Dimensional OBSERVER , NOT representing or even looking like any species including the human species.... Your Universe is just a 'Holographic Simulation' , displayed in a Display Register, of *"The Processing System of LIFE"*....

  • Joe M
    Joe M   1 months ago

    What they are describing our part of the operations of a projection TV high definition the lenses work the same way

  • marco biagini
    marco biagini   1 months ago

    I am a physicist and I will provide solid arguments that prove that consciousness cannot be generated by the brain (in my youtube channel you can find a video with more detailed explanations). Many argue that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain, but it is possible to show that such hypothesis is inconsistent with our scientific knowledges. In fact, it is possible to show that all the examples of emergent properties consists of concepts used to describe how an external object appear to our conscious mind, and not how it is in itself, which means how the object is independently from our observation. Let me show this with an example of emergent property, such as the function of a biological organ, like the heart that has the function of pumping blood. Actually, the function of pumping blood is just an abstract concept through which we approximately describe what is really happening, that is billions of linked chemical reactions and moving molecules. In other words, the function of the heart is only a subjective description of the organ from a macroscopic point of view, which neglect many microscopic details. Besides, the concept of pumping is directly connected to the concepts of force and movement, which are fundamental physical properties. Therefore, the function of the heart is not a new real property, but only a conceptual model through which we approximately describe the reality; this means that the function of the heart is just an idea. If we were smarter and could solve the equations of quantum physics for a macroscopic system, we could know all the processes that take place in physical reality without the need to consider simplified models. It is only because of the limitations of our intelligence that we have devised simplified conceptual models to describe natural phenomena. All the classifications used by biologists respond to the need to overcome the limits of our intelligence. Through biology, we describe natural phenomena in order to make them appear consistent with our way of reasoning; biological models are in fact very intuitive, unlike quantum physics. Emergent properties are then ideas conceived to describe or classify, according to arbitrary criteria and from a subjective point of view, certain processes or systems; emergent properties are intrinsically subjective, since they are conceptual models based on the arbitrary choice to focus on certain aspects of a system and neglet other aspects, such as microscopic structures and processes; emergent properties consist of ideas through which we describe how the external reality appears to our conscious mind: without a conscious mind, these ideas (= emergent properties) would not exist at all. Here comes my first argument: arbitrariness, subjectivity, classifications and approximate descriptions, imply the existence of a conscious mind, which can arbitrarily choose a specific point of view and focus on certain aspects while neglecting others. It is obvious that consciousness cannot be considered an emergent property of the physical reality, because consciousenss is a preliminary necessary condition for the existence of any emergent property. We have then a logical contradiction. Nothing which presupposes the existence of consciousness can be used to try to explain the existence of consciousness. I specify that by consciousness I refer to the common property of all our psychical experiences, such as sensations, emotions, thoughts and even dreams.Here comes my second argument: our scientific knowledge shows that brain processes consist of sequences of ordinary elementary physical processes; since consciousness is not a property of ordinary elementary physical processes, then a succession of such processes cannot have cosciousness as a property. In fact we can break down the process and analyze it step by step, and in every step consciousness would be absent, so there would never be any consciousness during the entire sequence of elementary processes. It must be also understood that considering a group of elementary processes together as a whole is an arbitrary choice. In fact, according to the laws of physics, any number of elementary processes is totally equivalent. We could consider a group of one hundred elementary processes or ten thousand elementary processes, or any other number; this choice is arbitrary and not reducible to the laws of physics. However, consciousness is a necessary preliminary condition for the existence of arbitrary choices; therefore consciousness cannot be a property of a sequence of elementary processes as a whole, because such sequence as a whole is only an arbitrary and abstract concept that cannot exist independently of a conscious mind. Here comes my third argument: It should also be considered that brain processes consist of billions of parallel sequences of elementary processes that take place in different points of the brain; if we attributed to these processes the property of consciousness, we would have to associate with the brain billions of different consciousnesses, that is billions of minds and personalities, each with its own self-awareness and will; this contradicts our direct experience, that is, our awareness of being a single person who is able to control the voluntary movements of his own body with his own will. Consciousness is in fact the only phenomenon that we know from direct experience, and from direct experience we know that consciousness is characterized by the immediate and intuitive awareness of being an indivisible subject, of being an "I". If cerebral processes are analyzed taking into account the laws of physics, these processes do not identify any unity; this missing unit is the necessarily non-physical element (precisely because it is missing in the brain), the element that interprets the brain processes and generates the unitary conscious state that characterizes all our psychic experiences, i.e., the human mind. Here comes my forth argument: Consciousness is characterized by the fact that self-awareness is an immediate intuition that cannot be broken down or fragmented into simpler elements. This characteristic of consciousness of presenting itself as a unitary and non-decomposable state, not fragmented into billions of personalities, does not correspond to the quantum description of brain processes, which instead consists of billions of sequences of elementary incoherent quantum processes. When someone claims that consciousness is a property of the brain, they are implicitly considering the brain as a whole, an entity with its own specific properties, other than the properties of the components. From the physical point of view, the brain is not a whole, because its quantum state is not a coherent state, as in the case of entangled systems; the very fact of speaking of "brain" rather than many molecules that have different quantum states, is an arbitrary choice. This is an important aspect, because, as I have said, consciousness is a necessary preliminary condition for the existence of arbitrariness. So, if a system can be considered decomposable and considering it as a whole is an arbitrary choice, then it is inconsistent to assume that such a system can have or generate consciousness, since consciousness is a necessary precondition for the existence of any arbitrary choice. In other words, to regard consciousness as a property ofthe brain, we must first define what the brain is, and to do so we must rely only on the laws of physics, without introducing arbitrary notions extraneous to them; if this cannot be done, then it means that every property we attribute to the brain is not reducible to the laws of physics, and therefore such property would be nonphysical. Since the interactions between the quantum particles that make up the brain are ordinary interactions, it is not actually possible to define the brain based solely on the laws of physics. The only way to define the brain is to arbitrarily establish that a certain number of particles belong to it and others do not belong to it, but such arbitrariness is not admissible. In fact, the brain is not physically separated from the other organs of the body, with which it interacts, nor is it physically isolated from the external environment, just as it is not isolated from other brains, since we can communicate with other people, and to do so we use physical means, for example acoustic waves or electromagnetic waves (light). The brain is actually an arbitrary set of quantum particles involved in billions of parallel sequences of linked chemical reactions. This necessary arbitrariness in defining what the brain is, is sufficient to demonstrate that consciousness is not reducible to the laws of physics. Besides, since the brain is an arbitrary concept, and consciousness is the necessary preliminary condition for the existence of arbitrariness, consciousness cannot be a property of the brain. Based on these considerations, we can exclude that consciousness is generated by brain processes or is an emergent property of the brain; the brain is not even a sufficient condition for the existence of the most elementary psychical experience, such as a simple sensorial perception. Marco Biagini

  • Aditya JNHS
    Aditya JNHS   1 months ago

    A question: whether the anesthesia is really turning-off the consciousness, or its just turning-off/dampening the tubules, thereby just restricting the `access' (of the consciousness) to trigger the neurons ? And the so called consciousness is very much intact..

  • joseph
    joseph   1 months ago

    First chapter of my recently published book A Defined Revelation: For Ye Who Question Faith talks about this topic. Purpose of the mind is to discover its origins, the method in which we do this is through humility and prayer. There's a reason even a 2020 nobel recipient had to just admit an unknown truth exists - a quote from my book: "This is the best foundation on which to build oneself, for admitting one’s own ignorance is not blind faith but the closest to truth one can reasonably obtain."

  • CACBCCCU
    CACBCCCU   2 months ago

    Despite constant media reinforcement, vacuum lightspeed is NOT constant in non-constant gravity. Gravity carries light, gravity always is flowing and gravity quanta are faster where gravity is stronger. Gravity is negative energy at its core, it quantizes opposite to light, fits Planck scale with tiny net energy. Coldness dimples quark triplets, focusing gravity, enabling entanglements. Bound protons are warmer-temperature progenitors of emergent entanglement in gravity focus. Without the entanglement-merging of decision thresholds, you have no chance at a free will, you are stuck in bent space-time lockstep, your brain can never be a self-determining quantum computer. Spacetime curving is supposed to be gradual over gradual gravitational change, so gravitational frequency-shifts should be gradual over gradual gravitational change, yet textbooks suggest this shift happens at the source and, like pure projection, is preserved on the way to observation. Opposite to every creepy standard textbook demanding space and time are red-stretched in closeness to mass instead of blue-compressed, in the gradual approach blue-shift observation starts with a redder signal in weaker gravity gradually blue-shifting as it approaches an observer in stronger gravity. But, how can that possibly make sense? Two super-simple notions are all it takes to replace curved space-time with gravity-controlled light-speed: 1.) Light waves act much like moving rumble-strips that appear to oscillate faster when detected in increased gravity. 2.) Gravity fields fundamentally flow, and will naturally produce a reversed riptide sort of pull gradient near a mass. These two simple notions allow gravity clock variations and falling-rate variations to move in the same direction as shifted frequency variations (not to mention lightspeed variations) instead of blindly following stupidly-opposing directions. Sorry if that bothers you. I'm not going to say Einstein and his followers enjoy big lies, thick hides, or looking like intoxicated monkey short-bussed derelicts blindly worshipping gravity-independent light-speed as an accident of birth, but it is what it is. I know nothing ever bothers fob's chosen people anyway. The blind-spot there disappears in considering the pivotal difference between curved space-time and gravitationally-moderated light-speed. It has to be suppressed by designated idiots. Can you imagine the political/academic/religious chaos that would surely ensue if this became suddenly well-known? No one seems to know how to handle the idea that gravity energy bound up in cold matter naturally follows neuromorphic learning rules using quark triplets cooling into shapes like balloon-covered volume-minimized orthogonal triple-ring wire-forms fully capable of behaving as retroreflective dynamic negative-energy-focusing surfaces. It's not only anti-relativity in its emergent freedom of flow networks, it's like the thought of simple gravity properties supporting nature forming extended focused multi-molecular gravitational associations with reflective memory is too deeply anti-religious to register. On the neuromorphic freedom of flow possible with entanglement in gravity's cold focus, exposed bound protons are ideal warmer-temperature progenitors of emergent retroreflection-based quantum gravity, each may carry a distinctly different freedom of entangling network flow, each may carry multiple distinctly-re-ordered perceptions of nonlocal space. Focused gravity is extendedly-stronger gravity, stronger gravity is faster gravity - gravity flows leverage on themselves. Focused gravity creates focused extensions of the matter wavefunction at its source. Flow freedom in entangled networks means decision thresholds are joined and easily influenced with profound consequence chains possible, decisions simply present practically no truly-localizing connections. Consciousness can be adept at parallel multiverse-type reasoning extending far beyond any basic conceivable unconscious uncoordinated low-count atom-level multiverse extent. A brain is highly quantum-leveraged, a quantum computer.

  • Raisa Maduro
    Raisa Maduro   2 months ago

    Timeline 14:46: See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Qwi7RipK4.Here you will find the explanation but in Dutch.

  • Ryan Phoenix
    Ryan Phoenix   2 months ago

    Soul = consciousness.Soul is an organized intelligence in simbyotic relationship to the existence of a living form of energy.I think. Therefore I am.

  • colinmcmb
    colinmcmb   2 months ago

    Couldn't they get a laptop for Roger as well? He'll get a stress back injury trying to look over his shoulder like that!

  • Kay Dje
    Kay Dje   2 months ago

    I hope that more research into the nature of consciousness is done. I think it isn't studied as much as it should be, and I think that better understanding of it would be beneficial to civilization at large.

  • catbertsis
    catbertsis   2 months ago

    where do i sign up to test enhancing my quantum vibrations by imbibing tons of psychedelics?

  • 佐藤謙二
    佐藤謙二   2 months ago

    I have an artificial intelligence that digs these two guys.

  • Magic Her
    Magic Her   2 months ago

    Why are thinking about a borad

  • Magic Her
    Magic Her   2 months ago

    That has nothing to do with considering

  • Fireball XL-5
    Fireball XL-5   2 months ago

    Penrose does not know chess. There is no 30 move rule. It's a 50 move rule.

  • fearlessjoebanzai
    fearlessjoebanzai   2 months ago

    Does anyone know what the shoes that Dr. Hameroff is wearing are called?

  • Peter Sinclair
    Peter Sinclair   2 months ago

    Need more than QM. Popper cites Einstein to the effect, “that best fate for any theory is for it exist as limiting state in a better theory”.

  • israel socratus
    israel socratus   2 months ago

    Brain. ---.. “It takes 7% of human genes to create the internal organs of our body. But to create the structure of the brain, more than half of the genes in the genome are required. Every second of our genes works to support brain function. The brain is the organ that required the largest number of genes in the body. This may mean that the main efforts of Evolution were directed precisely at creating the Conscious brain.” The origin of consciousness is not clear (and it seems, the “big-bang” doesn't fit to genome picture of evolution) # Brain works on dualistic basis: 1 - conscious (Maxwell different EM waves) 2 - subconscious (Quantum waves involve in process) ---.. ''[T]he laws of quantum mechanics itself cannot be formulated ... without recourse to the concept of consciousness.'' /Eugene Wigner, the Nobel Prize in 1963/ # "Quantum physics makes a strong argument for universal consciousness.” ----… Brain - Symmetry & Asymmetry During evolution, the functions of the cerebral hemispheres were separated. This asymmetry of the functions of the right and left hemispheres contributed to a sharp increase of brain power. For a successful life, needs synchronous work of both hemispheres (as a whole). Synchronous work of the brain increases its mental potential. Violation of synchronous work leads to diseases, splitting of consciousness, schizophrenia, To develop and keep brain healthy, needs mental meditation. Many people train and develop their muscles, but rarely does anyone consciously develop own brain. -----.. Consciousness and the 14 billion Universe. -----. The Nature and Consciousness cannot be created randomly during 14 billion years after big bang - because the "Infinite monkey theorem" forbid such situation: It means, there are two possibilities: 1 - the random development of Nature must take much more time than 14 billion years 2 – during 14 billion years, Nature could develop only consciously. -----. Without inclusion the concept of consciousness in physics, it is impossible to explain many key aspects of the physics of Nature. If we looking for "unified theory" in physics, then consciousness should be included in the theory. -------…